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The Michigan state House has introduced, and the Senate is working on amendments on their respective versions of an anti-union bill. Meanwhile:

An injunction to allow access to the Capitol has been ordered, but people are not being permitted in!!  #NoRTWMi
@BarbByrum via HootSuite
Democrats have left the House chamber in protest of the chamber continuing to meet while the Capitol is essentially in lock-down
@GongwerMichigan via web
House Democrats letting people into Capitol
@GongwerMichigan via web
The bill, which just a year ago Gov. Rick Snyder was saying he didn't want, is being heavily supported by the Koch brothers' Americans for Prosperity. That type of support helps explain why Republicans are so intent on ramming the bills through the state House and Senate, at whatever cost to democracy. (Who am I kidding? "Legislating for the wealthy at whatever cost to democracy" is basically the GOP slogan at this point.)

The situation continues developing quickly.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 01:50 PM PST.

Also republished by In Support of Labor and Unions.

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  •  Evidently there was quite a delay in complying (6+ / 0-)

    with the court order judging by the tweets I've been getting -- but people are being admitted now.

    ACLU of Michigan ‏@ACLUofMichigan

    RT @loriahiggins: Doors are opening for protesters

    House Dems left the chamber except for one observer.
    Voting is delayed. Dems are locked out of their door into the house floor. R's are coming in and out of their door freely. #savemi #1u
    off topic: how do you post tweets here so they show up as above in this diary?

    Mark E. Miller // Kalamazoo Township Trustee // MI 6th District Democratic Chair

    by memiller on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 02:03:24 PM PST

  •  Sez, Emptywheel, it's already done: (6+ / 0-)

    Code Monkey like freedom / Code Monkey like peace and justice too
    Code Monkey very nerdy man / With big warm fuzzy bleeding heart
    Code Monkey like you!

    Formerly known as Jyrinx.

    by Code Monkey on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 02:03:56 PM PST

  •  Passed the House (sigh) (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Vatexia, Sylv, Ice Blue

    Mark E. Miller // Kalamazoo Township Trustee // MI 6th District Democratic Chair

    by memiller on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 02:33:54 PM PST

  •  Sounds like OH with SB5; they locked us out (2+ / 0-)
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    Sylv, Ice Blue


    Tiped & rec'ed

    (R's) take those tired memes and shove 'em, Denise Velez Oliver, 11/7/2012.

    by a2nite on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 02:36:55 PM PST

  •  It's Their House (3+ / 0-)
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    Vatexia, Sylv, Ice Blue

    They paid for it, they pay it's upkeep and needs and they pay the personal that maintain offices and the chambers within, not to mention paying for the law enforcement and the pepper spray used on them along with the court costs and time for those arrested!!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 02:57:50 PM PST

  •  This Governor Will Not Be Re-elected (0+ / 0-)

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 03:32:47 PM PST

  •  Cheap Republican Tools for Sale! (0+ / 0-)

    Just saw a pack of horny dogs taking turns with their mothers.

    The dire straits facing America are not due poor people having too much money

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 04:49:52 PM PST

  •  Americans for Progress got a week-long permit (1+ / 0-)
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    appparently for tents and the voice system at the capitol
    in anticipation of Snyder's planned right to work mating with the Koch Brothers...this meant that union members today could not use a public address system on the front lawn of the capitol., or use the space occupied by the Americans for Progress tents

    •  Bastards learned a few things from WI didn't they! (1+ / 0-)
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      That kind of crap means non-violent civil disobedience ...worth going to jail for...permits?...bullshit!

      Robber Baron "ReTHUGisms": John D. Rockefeller -"The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets"; Jay Gould -"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."

      by ranton on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 06:32:17 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Right to work - why not? (0+ / 0-)

    I consider myself to be an independent voter. I look at each election and issue with logic and measure, not intending to be polarized by any singular issue or cause. I carefully look at all the facts, I then vote for folks that I feel are going to represent my better interests and views, regardless of if they are Democrat or Republican.

    Recently I read about the entire "right to work" issue and was very surprised to see so many Democrats crying fowl over its passage in Michigan.

    When I read above that "The law would prevent unions and employers from requiring workers to pay the costs of their union representation, such as handling grievances or bargaining contracts. Rather, union members would bear those costs on behalf of their non-union coworkers, something that's been described as a tax on union membership." I must to admit, I was flabbergasted, dumbfounded, recoiled, feeling an overwhelming level of shock and awe, and otherwise utterly amazed.

    What amazed me was that union representatives would ever handle grievances or bargaining of contracts for non-union coworkers? WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT? Moreover, if an individual choose not to join a union, and they knew that the union was aware of that choice (ostensibly, the union obviously would be aware of their lacking membership, knowing they were not getting dues from this person of course), why would they ever want those folks handling their grievances or bargaining for them anyway? If they wanted the union's help they would just join the union. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-union per se, it's just I am rather curious at the lack of logic here.

    If unions wanted their "fair market value" to be obvious (and I am not arguing it isn't in some cases), it would seem rather easy to allow people to not join and then feel the brunt of negotiating with management on their own while threatening a "1 man strike"! Wouldn't it seem logical that they would end up just joining the union anyway once they got a raw deal? And, if management is willing to give the individual a better deal than the union can get, then, why should the person want to join the union? If he can negotiate for himself better than what the union can get him, then he is right and the union would not be serving him well, thus, why join at that point? If the union members are doing better than the best deal he got himself on his own, then it would seem to be a self resolving problem for unions to not be worried about at all.

    Now, I do realize that many unions support political postures that perhaps a potential member would disagree with. Okay, simply solution, if a union donates to political causes that a worker does not agree with then a person should have a right to opt out of joining the union based on that objection, or receive his apportionment back in a refund of the total political budget spent. That would seem fair, no?

    More than anything, being an independent, I was quite surprised to see people aligning themselves with the Democrats in concert with their alignment with unions on this issue. After all, since when do Democrats stand in the way of people gaining rights? It seems to flow against the grain of most Democrats I am friendly with.

    The Democrats always talk of a "woman's right to choose", why not a "worker's right to choose" (if he joins a union or not), it does not really seem so terrible or anti-union to me at all.

    Forcing someone to be a member of an organization they have no interest in joining, and being forced to pay for that privilege, seems patently unfair, especially when their job depends on their doing so. They should have a choice, no?

    How is forcing a union member to pay dues and be a member any different than a union member paying dues and then going to work when there is a strike?

    At the least when the non-union member is going to work during a strike it's not because he is letting his fellow union members suffer for him, he is working during a strike because he made his own deal with management and is simply not on strike.


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