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"Now, Now, let's be reasonable. We need to compromise."

This is the "centrist" position, and we know from experience that the "centrist" position is the one that always wins. Only an old radical such as myself would stand up and say, " No! Enough! Enough working people have already died from the effects of insufficient access to medical care. No! Your access to more and more luxuries has already cost us enough. We have already 'compromised' too many working-class lives."

When does it ever end?

Last evening, I comment to OPOL that I should change my name to Ranting Raving Radical. Yes! I feel like climbing up on a roof top and shouting, "ENOUGH. We have given you too many of our Fellow Workers' lives!"

This confounds me: why working people sit back and allow even the mention of such a plan. How did we get to the place where we value our lives, the lives of our family members, our neighbors, our children, our parents, so little that any of our politicians of any political party would dare even mention such a plan?

What we should be fighting for is Medicare Plan E. Medicare for Everyone. The last thing we should ever allow is further limits on Medicare. We should not even allow that discussion to take place.

Once I had a dream that before I retired as a Healthcare Worker we would have Universal Health Care for All in the USA. And by that I did not mean every man woman and child in thrall to the Insurance Industry.

This year, I did retire and that dream is slipping further and further away.

Originally posted to Invisible People on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 08:27 AM PST.

Also republished by In Support of Labor and Unions and Anti-Capitalist Chat.

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  •  Tip Jar (19+ / 0-)

    WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For Nov: Lives lost trying to earn a living.

    by JayRaye on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 08:27:22 AM PST

  •  From what I've seen around these parts (4+ / 0-)
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    the consensus is that the only "fair" deal is to sock it to the rich.

    The rest of the Clinton Era prosperity package (e.g., have the middle class chip in a few bucks here and there as well) is a complete no-go.

    •  I sure wouldn't say that 39.6% (5+ / 0-)
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      is "socking it to the rich." But yes, a simple return of top-end marginal rates to Clinton-era levels does seem like the limit of the circumscribed discussion.

      One thing I never seem to see is a talk about why returning to those tax rates for all would be such a burden on the lower- and middle classes. It seems to be just a "given" that anyone earning fewer than X dollars couldn't possibly pay the same rate they did in the 1990s, back when there was a modicum of fairness and economic stability.

      I mean, I like government services. I want more of them; it helps to show that we live in an actual society and not an Ayn Randian paradise. These services cost money, and that cost should be borne by all.

      Of course the wealthy should pay more, and they will. But everyone should contribute, and the way the US has chosen to collect people's contributions is through taxation.

      If we're really at the point where the Democratic argument boils down to "People need to keep more of their money," then we're in deep trouble as a party and a Website. And if it's so important to keep taxes low on working-class folks, why is there absolutely zero discussion about the impending payroll tax's returning to its historical levels- a tax that affects every paycheck, but not investment income?

      •  What we've got is largely (though not entirely) (3+ / 0-)
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        a Republican Party funded by the top 1% and a Democratic Party funded by the rest of the top 10%.

        Neither one wants to hike taxes on their own major donors.

        So we all pretend that a quarter of a million dollars is "middle class", and that people making low six figure incomes really, really need relief from those horribly abusive Clinton era rates.

        This place needs a PVP server.

        by JesseCW on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 09:29:22 AM PST

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      •  I'd say the problem is that (7+ / 0-)

        many in the putative middle are fiscally precarious & they know it now. Poll after poll  has shown that while Americans are worried about deficits and the national debt, addressing unemployment and improving the economy has consistently been a bigger priority. Years of stagnant wages,high unemployment,disappearing pensions,rising health insurance costs,upside down mortgages,sky rocketing tuition etc. has,quite reasonably,fostered fear. And fear doesn't build social democracies.

        "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

        by tardis10 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 10:01:40 AM PST

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    •  yes, perhaps this diary is far too pessimistic (7+ / 0-)

      But my point still stands: how dare either party bargain with our lives!?

      versus

      Their disposable income!?

      And why do we even allow such a debate to take place?

      The casual disregard for the value of working class lives has been much on my mind lately.

      And not just the disregard that the ruling class has for our lives, but how we ourselves, as a class, permit that disregard by our silence.

      WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For Nov: Lives lost trying to earn a living.

      by JayRaye on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 08:59:34 AM PST

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  •  It will end when some working people (6+ / 0-)

    stop voting for Republicans.    

    The working class in America also has elected its own grave diggers.

    It's a long struggle and we must keep struggling, but without real class consciuosness, it will continue to be a difficult struggle.  

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 08:57:46 AM PST

    •  thank you, Tom (6+ / 0-)

      I'm in a deeply pessimistic mood this morning.

      Perhaps I should delete this diary.

      Yes, even my own 49er union brothers (IUOE) endorse a Teabagger Republican. Lack of regulation in the construction industry means they die in greater #'s.

      I never worked a year that a 49er did not die on the job. One terrible year we lost 5 which included a job that I worked on.

      Our lives are cheap.

      They think nothing of putting our lives on the bargaining table.

      Somehow we need to get that message out that when they bargain with healthcare access, safety regs, UE benefits, safety net, they are bargaining with our lives.

      WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For Nov: Lives lost trying to earn a living.

      by JayRaye on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 09:08:33 AM PST

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      •  It's awfully hard not to be pessimistic (7+ / 0-)

        right now.  The screws are turning more and more to wrap up a "behind the scenes" deal that will affect those of us on Medicare and Social Security (and poor Medicaid, which gets little love).  The Democratic Party today is what the Republican Party was 1950-1980 (discounting social mores).  The Republican Party is gone off the right wing cliff.  So that leaves us progressives as the ugly stepchildren who are left in the cold.  

      •  It's hard and you are a stalwart. (4+ / 0-)

        The Michigan thing bugs the hell out of me.  I grew up reading Solidarity when Reuther was still alive.  (My dad was an autoworker).  The home of the Teamsters and UAW going right to work.  I hope the Dem meeting with Snyder prevents it.

        Michigan has to become a total battleground for 2014 iof right to work is imposed.  

        There are always ups and downs and there have been a lot of downs.    

        Look for silver linings.  The DoL, OSHA, and NLRB are still in Dem hands.  While far from perfect, it makes a difference.

        I remember it is a long struggle.  I also read Jesse Jackson's speech about keeping hope alive.  It's always darkest before the dawn.  That may not be true - it may not get better - but we have to believe it will get better and we can help make it better for there to be any chance at all.

        Sometimes our "irrational" belief and hope is all we have, so we must cling to it.  

        Take care. Solidarity.

        Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

        by TomP on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 09:33:18 AM PST

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    •  We had both houses and the white house (3+ / 0-)
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      for two years.

      We pretended we had to "wait for the Bush Tax cuts to expire", instead of ending them.  For anyone.

      Republicans didn't do that, TomP.

      This place needs a PVP server.

      by JesseCW on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 09:30:44 AM PST

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    •  But they won't. So it will not end. (0+ / 0-)

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