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Challenger for the chair of the MDP, Lon Johnson, recently upon being ask a question, when speaking in Oakland County, about his not voting in 2010 responded with

"he was living in D.C. at the time and wasn't 100% sure of his voting residency status, so took a pass rather than risk voting at the wrong location."

Check blow the infinity symbol thing for my take on this.

This raises some serious issues with his bid for chairmanship of the MDP, to me. A recent  blog comment over on MichiganLiberal.com i tihnking brings up some good points

"1. If his suppose to be the head of the party, shouldn't he have some clue of what his voting status is? seriously this is like a doctor wanting to practice medical without having gone to medical school.

2. If he suppose to energize the party as chair, how can he do that when he can't even get himself fired up? his answer just betrays him as lazy, do we really want a lazy chair?

We had a serious drought in 2010 of people voting, how can we take serious someone who, not only was part of the problem that year, but then blows of the question like it doesn't matter?" by warhawkgundam

Am starting to rethinking any support for this guy, this plus him voicing that he just wants to be a figurehead, while at the same time ask for a 80k raise, to 160k, over the current Chair Mark Brewer. Not even to mention that he by his own omission is already planning on running for office again in a few years. Has me wondering why his trying for a job that he doesn't want, beside for the title on his resume, and doesn't even want to put the effort in need to rebuild the Michigan democratic Party

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  •  MDP = Michegan Democratic Party. (6+ / 0-)

    According to Eclectablog:

    Lon Johnson‘s name was probably not familiar to most Michigan Democrats until he announced his candidacy for the Chair of the Michigan Democratic Party (MDP) last week. All of that changed with, in a letter from Senator Debbie Stabenow, the entire Democratic Congressional and Senatorial delegation came out in support of Johnson. Along with them, the Teamsters union and the UAW threw their support behind Johnson, as well.

    Johnson ran for state House in 2012 in the very Republican 103rd district, a race he narrowly lost. A powerhouse fundraiser and verteran campaigner, he lives in Kalkaska, Michigan with his wife, Juliana Smoot, a nationally-recognized fundraising all-star herself in the Obama campaign.

  •  I think a leadership change for Michigan Dems is (2+ / 0-)

    long overdue.....too many losing seasons for Brewer as head coach.

  •  Just read the interview with Electablog (0+ / 0-)

    Johnson sounds pretty good.  He also moved around a great deal, so his excuse for not voting in 2010 seems reasonable.  The Party Chair has to fundraise and build the Party since he has the backing of labor in Michigan, he's off to a good start.  

    Who else is running?  Do you have a preference?

    •  wow do you have any idea about Michigan poltics? (0+ / 0-)

      Labor is part of the problem in Michigan, they have been a regressive agent on the party, and preventing anyone from reaching out to other Democratic interests groups.

      There backing of Lon is just putting a new face on the same old business as usual.

      This guy's post bring up questions about Lon's candidacy, and truth be told, it completing unreasonable that he didn't vote, it very easy to figure out were you vote, if you take the every to do so, it something college student do every year, Snowbirds also, so your telling me this guy couldn't do what 18-24 and 60+ years old do all the time?

      •  No, but I am on the Executive Committee (0+ / 0-)

        for Tennessee's Democratic Party.  Labor is not part of the problem.  Labor is a strong bloc in the Democratic party and always there for us.  You are lucky in Michigan that you have such strong unions and Democratic elected officials.  The two go hand in hand.  

        Also, it isn't just labor supporting him but your U.S. Senators and Congressman.  There is a reason they are supporting Johnson and it isn't because he is a problem.

        •  well (0+ / 0-)

          Here in Michigan, Labor is a problem, for starters specfic groups within Labor have crowded out and prevent any of what would, normality, be consider Democratic interests groups, Environmental groups, LBGT, and others. Secondly due to the makeup of labor here pulls the party to the right very hard, this offend makes it hard for the party to come out for stuff such as Civil Rights, LBGT right, Pro-Choice, and other issues. The UAW in the last convention to elect the party chair help keep the Africa American Caucus from standing up and putting forward a candidate. Another issue is that the Unions here in Michigan don't give a hoot about the MDP, they just want a party they can control, they would throw there support behind a republican in a heart beat, and have in the past, if that republican would support Labor issues at all, because labor especially UAW, at least here in Michigan, views align with the Conservatives.

          to another point it's not all of labor that support him, UAW,Teamster, and UFCW Support Lon. MEA, Laborers, and MRCC support Mark. Yes the Congressional members support Lon, but they been trying to unseat Mark sense Granhom took office. Mark is however locking up all the Congressional Chairs, and County Chairs, in support for him.

          This is no where near cut and dry like you are trying to make it.

          •  You seem to be the one who is trying to make this (0+ / 0-)

            cut and dried.

            As you point out, labor is split. Many county and district chairs endorsed Brewer. (But not a majority; by the way, look at my sig line. I have not endorsed) The Congressional delegation went in a bloc for Johnson. Local elected officials in Macomb and other places have announced for Johnson.

            In fact, this is looking like a close race.

            Mark E. Miller // Kalamazoo Township Trustee // MI 6th District Democratic Chair

            by memiller on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 09:01:45 PM PST

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  •  Methinks you are a bit disingenuous.... (0+ / 0-)
    Am starting to rethinking any support for this guy,...
    Any support you may have had previously? ... which is zero.

    He did not dodge the question, he answered it. You did not like the answer, but it is a fair answer. He was not in doubt as to his registration status, but his residency status, whether he still had the right to vote in Michigan given that he was living in DC.

    Political operatives move around a lot, and these questions are not simple. Lon has a strong voting record. This was his only missed general election (I don't know about other elections), and Michigan political guru Mark Grebner opines that ain't bad:

    ...

    In Lon's case, the problem of getting an absentee ballot wasn't as simple as you think, since (based on fragmentary evidence) his voter registration had been cancelled.  So if he applied directly for a ballot, they would have rejected him.  And if he waited until after about September 20 to apply for a ballot, he wouldn't have found out soon enough to complete a mail-in voter registration.

    That may not have been the exact series of events - my records are inconclusive - but it gives you an idea why I say that voting in five general elections out of six isn't bad.

    comment from: http://www.michiganliberal.com/...

    Mark E. Miller // Kalamazoo Township Trustee // MI 6th District Democratic Chair

    by memiller on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 06:38:54 AM PST

  •  Besides which... (2+ / 0-)
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    la58, Sandy on Signal

    All the Democrats who assemble in Cobo Hall in nine days will not be thinking about why Lon missed voting in 2010. They will be thinking about who can best lead our Party to victory from here on.

    And that question is not a slam dunk. For many, the answer is obvious -- the guy who has more experience than any other state Chair, who has shown up at their local meetings year after year, who is always there when you need him, who has worked hard for modest pay, turned down pay raises to allow more staff to be hired to help at the local level, who has pushed hard to get every Republican scandal the media attention they deserve. Mark Brewer is that guy, and I honor and respect his hard work.

    The question is, are we satisfied with where we are, and do we think that Lon has a better idea, and can carry it out? I have heard him speak, laying out the details of how he thinks we can do better, three times now. I think he does have a better idea, and has the skill set to carry it out. I can't lay it out here in detail, but the interview cited in a comment above at Eclectablog does the best job so far.

    In fact, any MDP member reading this should go there and read the interview with Mark Brewer and with Lon Johnson.  Chris Savage does a great job bringing out the background, values, and leadership style of each man.

    Again, it is a close call, depending on the weight you put on experience vs. the prospect (inherently uncertain) of positive change. Therefore, I am not endorsing in this race.

    But your decision, MDP member, should not come down to a missed vote.

    Mark E. Miller // Kalamazoo Township Trustee // MI 6th District Democratic Chair

    by memiller on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 07:05:27 AM PST

    •  am taking a guess (0+ / 0-)

      that the reason they're bring up 2010 is, because his talking about firing up the party and getting people out to vote, and make sure the gain's we made in 2008 and 2012, in term of people pulling the lever for D's are not wasted. From the fact that he didn't vote in 2010 he would be part of the group that sat on the sidelines that year, can he be a credible leader when he has sat on sideline, during the year when we need the most people to work their butts off?

  •  Disengenous Argument (1+ / 0-)
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    memiller

    People with perfect voting records are quite rare. My voting habits study of a large Michigan city showed that, for the last 12 years of data, only a very small number of people who were eligible to vote, less than 0.2%, had a perfect voting record. But gaps in the data, when analyzed further, suggests that number is actually lower.

    People who voted in every state primary and state and Federal general elections was larger, but not by much, only about 2% could satisfy that criteria. Again, that's for the same 12 year period, not including the 2012 General Election.

    Put another way, someone who did not vote in 2010 is still in the 98% rank of voters for that 12 year period. If the general population did the same, the Democratic Party's candidates would win a very solid majority of the time.

    I'm not addressing your other claims, which are not sourced.

    •  So it disengenous? (0+ / 0-)

      Well if it alright for our leaders to sit on the side lines and not doing anything, you wouldn't mine if Obama sit on his butt and doesn't do anything these next 4 years. Or better yet next time we go to war our generals don't need to plan anything, right the soldiers will just do it on there own right?

      If you don't vote you don't get to complain.

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